Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/27/2003 01:32 PM House TRA

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         March 27, 2003                                                                                         
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jim Holm, Co-Chair                                                                                               
Representative Beverly Masek, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Hugh Fate                                                                                                        
Representative Vic Kohring                                                                                                      
Representative Dan Ogg                                                                                                          
Representative Mary Kapsner                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Albert Kookesh                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bruce Weyhrauch                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
HOUSE BILL NO. 156                                                                                                              
"An Act increasing the motor fuel tax and repealing the special                                                                 
tax rates on blended fuels; and providing for an effective                                                                      
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 156(TRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 173                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to a fee on studded tires; and providing for an                                                                
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 173(TRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 81                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to motor vehicle emissions; and providing for                                                                  
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 81 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 93                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to boating safety; repealing secs. 3, 5, 7, 9,                                                                 
11, 14, 16, 18, 20, 23, 26, 27, and 30, ch. 28, SLA 2000; and                                                                   
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS ACTION                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
BILL: HB 156                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE:INCREASE MOTOR FUEL TAX                                                                                             
SPONSOR(S): RLS BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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03/05/03     0424       (H)        READ THE FIRST TIME -                                                                        
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03/05/03     0424       (H)        TRA, FIN                                                                                     
03/05/03     0424       (H)        FN1: ZERO(DEC)                                                                               
03/05/03     0424       (H)        FN2: (REV)                                                                                   
03/05/03     0424       (H)        GOVERNOR'S TRANSMITTAL LETTER                                                                
03/11/03                (H)        TRA AT 2:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                    
03/11/03                (H)        Heard & Held                                                                                 
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03/18/03                (H)        TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                    
03/18/03                (H)        Heard & Held                                                                                 
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03/25/03                (H)        TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                    
03/25/03                (H)        Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                      
03/27/03                (H)        TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 173                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE:FEE FOR STUDDED TIRES                                                                                               
SPONSOR(S): RLS BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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03/05/03     0447       (H)        READ THE FIRST TIME -                                                                        
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03/05/03     0447       (H)        TRA, FIN                                                                                     
03/05/03     0448       (H)        FN1: (REV)                                                                                   
03/05/03     0448       (H)        GOVERNOR'S TRANSMITTAL LETTER                                                                
03/11/03                (H)        TRA AT 2:00 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                    
03/11/03                (H)        Heard & Held                                                                                 
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03/18/03                (H)        TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                    
03/18/03                (H)        Heard & Held                                                                                 
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03/25/03                (H)        TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                    
03/25/03                (H)        Heard & Held                                                                                 
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03/27/03                (H)        TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 81                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE:MOTOR VEHICLE EMISSIONS INSPECTION                                                                                  
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S)MEYER                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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02/07/03     0148       (H)        READ THE FIRST TIME -                                                                        
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02/07/03     0148       (H)        TRA, STA                                                                                     
03/27/03                (H)        TRA AT 1:30 PM CAPITOL 17                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
ERIC MUSSER, Staff                                                                                                              
to Representative Beverly Masek                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented Amendment 3 to HB 156.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JOHN MacKINNON, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                             
of Highways & Public Facilities                                                                                                 
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF)                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information pertaining to HB 156.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MEYER                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the sponsor statement for HB 81.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES R. HOSACK, Deputy Director                                                                                              
Division of Motor Vehicles,                                                                                                     
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 81 and answered                                                                 
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CYNTHIA L.HEIL, Section Manager                                                                                                 
Mobile Sources Section                                                                                                          
Department of Environmental Conservation                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions pertaining to HB 81.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES ARMSTRONG, Coordinator                                                                                                    
Anchorage Metropolitan Area Transportation Solutions                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 81.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
RON G. KING, Program Manager                                                                                                    
Air Non-Point & Mobile Sources Program                                                                                          
Department of Environmental Conservation                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in support of HB  81 and answered                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-13, SIDE A                                                                                                            
Number 0001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BEVERLY  MASEK called the House  Transportation Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to  order at 1:32 p.m.   Representatives Masek,                                                               
Holm,  Kohring, Ogg,  and Kapsner  were  present at  the call  to                                                               
order.    Representative  Fate  arrived as  the  meeting  was  in                                                               
progress.  Also present was Representative Weyhrauch.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HB 156-INCREASE MOTOR FUEL TAX                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
CO-CHAIR MASEK announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 156, "An  Act increasing the motor fuel tax and                                                               
repealing the special  tax rates on blended  fuels; and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK clarified that in  a   previous meeting, Amendment                                                               
1  had passed  and Amendment  2 had  been withdrawn.   Therefore,                                                               
Amendment 3  [labeled 23-GH1118\A.2,  Kurtz, 3/26/03]  was before                                                               
the committee.  Amendment 3 read:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1, following "fuel tax":                                                                                    
          Insert ", relating to the fund into which the                                                                       
     proceeds of the motor fuel tax is paid,"                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     Page 4, following line 13:                                                                                                 
          Insert new bill sections to read:                                                                                     
        "* Sec. 3.  AS 43.40.010(g) is amended to read:                                                                       
          (g)  The proceeds of the revenue from the tax on                                                                      
     all motor  fuels, except as  provided in (e),  (f), and                                                                
     (j) of  this section, shall  be paid into a  state fund                                                                
     entitled "highway  maintenance revenue fund"  and shall                                                                
     be  used  [DEPOSITED  IN A  SPECIAL  HIGHWAY  FUEL  TAX                                                                
     ACCOUNT IN THE STATE  GENERAL FUND. THE LEGISLATURE MAY                                                                    
     APPROPRIATE  FUNDS  FROM  IT] for  expenditure  by  the                                                                    
     Department  of  Transportation  and  Public  Facilities                                                                    
     directly  or  as  matched  with  available  federal-aid                                                                    
     highway    money   for    maintenance   of    highways,                                                                    
     construction of  highway projects and  ferries included                                                                    
     in the program provided  for in AS 19.10.150, including                                                                    
     approaches, appurtenances,  and related  facilities and                                                                
     acquisition  of rights-of-way  or easements,  and other                                                                    
     highway  costs including  surveys, administration,  and                                                                    
     related  matters.     All  departments  of   the  state                                                                    
     government  authorized to  spend  funds collected  from                                                                    
     taxes  imposed  by  this chapter  shall  perform,  when                                                                    
     feasible, all  construction or  reconstruction projects                                                                    
     by  contract after  the projects  have been  advertised                                                                    
     for  competitive  bids,  except  that,  when  feasible,                                                                    
     arrangements shall be  made with political subdivisions                                                                    
     to  carry   out  the  construction   or  reconstruction                                                                    
     projects.   If it is  not feasible  for the work  to be                                                                    
     performed    by   state    engineering   forces,    the                                                                    
     commissioner  of transportation  and public  facilities                                                                    
     may  contract  on  a professional  basis  with  private                                                                    
     engineering firms  for road design, bridge  design, and                                                                    
     services in connection with surveys.   If more than one                                                                    
     private engineering firm is available  for the work the                                                                    
     contracts shall be entered into on a negotiated basis.                                                                     
        * Sec. 4.  AS 43.40.010(h) is amended to read:                                                                        
          (h)  All motor fuel tax receipts shall be paid                                                                        
     into the  highway maintenance revenue fund  or into the                                                                
     general  fund,  as  appropriate.    If  paid  into  the                                                                
     general fund,  the receipts shall be  [AND] distributed                                                                
     to  the proper  accounts in  the general  fund.   Valid                                                                    
     motor fuel  tax refund  claims shall  be paid  from the                                                                    
     highway maintenance  revenue fund  or from  the related                                                                
     [FUEL]   tax   account   in  the   general   fund,   as                                                                
     appropriate."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, following line 22:                                                                                                 
          Insert new bill sections to read:                                                                                     
        "* Sec. 6.  AS 43.40.070 is amended to read:                                                                        
          Sec. 43.40.070.  Refund warrants.  Upon approval                                                                    
     of a  refund claim by  the department, a  warrant shall                                                                    
     be  drawn on  the highway  maintenance revenue  fund or                                                                
     from  the related  [FUEL] tax  account  in the  general                                                                
     fund, as appropriate, in favor  of the applicant in the                                                                
     amount of the claim.                                                                                                       
        *  Sec. 7.    The  uncodified law  of  the State  of                                                                  
     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:                                                                         
          CONTINGENT EFFECT.  This Act takes effect only if                                                                     
       a constitutional amendment proposed by the Twenty-                                                                       
     Third Alaska  State Legislature repealing sec.  7, art.                                                                    
     IX, Constitution of the State  of Alaska, is adopted by                                                                    
     the  voters under  sec. 1,  art. XIII,  Constitution of                                                                    
     the State of Alaska."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill section accordingly.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 23:                                                                                                           
          Delete "July 1, 2003"                                                                                                 
          Insert   "on    the   effective   date    of   the                                                                    
      constitutional amendment specified in sec. 7 of this                                                                      
     Act."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0203                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ERIC MUSSER, Staff to Representative  Beverly Masek, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, spoke to  the effect of Amendment 3,  saying that if                                                               
a  highway maintenance  revenue fund  was established  within the                                                               
general fund, it would dedicate all  of the proceeds of the motor                                                               
fuel tax to a dedicated fund  for the express use of highway road                                                               
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0240                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MUSSER continued that Section  6 sets up the refund mechanism                                                               
that  pays a  refund from  the same  revenue fund.   The  biggest                                                               
impact is  in Section 7, in  which the current effective  date is                                                               
contingent  upon voter  approval  of  a constitutional  amendment                                                               
that  allows  for  dedicated funds.    Currently,  Article  [IX],                                                               
Section 7,  prohibits express dedicated revenue  except for those                                                               
dedications  that existed  prior to  statehood.   He said  that a                                                               
separate resolution would be introduced  tomorrow and read across                                                               
[the House floor]  that would put the question to  the voters, if                                                               
passed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0392                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOHRING moved to  adopt Amendment 3 [text provided                                                               
previously].  There being no objection, Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0420                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER  offered  Conceptual Amendment  4.    She                                                               
referred  to Sarah  Gilbertson's previous  testimony [meeting  of                                                               
3/18/03] in which  it was mentioned that 43 percent  of the roads                                                               
in  Alaska  are  maintained by  municipalities.    Representative                                                               
Kapsner said that  out of the states that have  a motor fuel tax,                                                               
four  states  do  not  share   their  portion  of  the  tax  with                                                               
municipalities.   She said  it could be  argued that  Alaska does                                                               
share  because  of  municipal  assistance  and  revenue  sharing.                                                               
However, because  a dedicated  fund [would]  exist, she  asked if                                                               
the committee would be in favor  of allocating 31 percent of what                                                               
is garnered in taxes to go back to the municipalities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0520                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK asked how Conceptual  Amendment 4 would change the                                                               
dynamics of the bill, now that Amendment 3 had been adopted.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MUSSER   offered  his  understanding  that   the  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment would  ensure a fair distribution  of those maintenance                                                               
funds  to communities  that do  not have  the base.   He  said he                                                               
believed that there was no  preclusion that would prohibit any of                                                               
the revenues from being disbursed;  there would still be regional                                                               
operations  and management  processes through  the Department  of                                                               
Transportation  &  Public  Facilities  (DOT&PF.)    He  said  the                                                               
funding  mechanism   does  not   distinguish  between   local  or                                                               
organized municipalities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0594                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  objected to Conceptual  Amendment 4,  saying that                                                               
HB 156  had already  gone through  considerable changes  and that                                                               
the   House  Finance   Committee  would   be  dealing   with  the                                                               
administration of funding.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0600                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER  reiterated,  for  Representative  Fate's                                                               
benefit, that  the committee had  passed Amendment 3,  which sets                                                               
up a  dedicated fund.   She explained that  [Conceptual Amendment                                                               
4] asks that  consideration be given to allocating  31 percent of                                                               
the dedicated  fund to the municipalities  because municipalities                                                               
maintain 43 percent of the roads in the state.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MASEK reiterated  that her  objection to  the amendment                                                               
was due to  the bill having already been "gone  over quite a bit"                                                               
and  also because  the issue  could be  dealt with  in the  House                                                               
Finance Committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0663                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM said  he was curious as to the  suggested amount of                                                               
31  rather than  43, since  43 percent  of the  roads are  in the                                                               
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER  replied that the amount  was derived from                                                               
the  findings  put  forth  by   the  Alaska  Legislative  Digest,                                                             
indicating that  the average amount  that was shared,  from among                                                               
the 50 states,  was an amount of 31 percent;  she said she wanted                                                               
to go with  the average.  She added, "We  could make an amendment                                                               
to the amendment to make it more, if you'd like."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE asked if there  was any present allocation to                                                               
the communities.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER  replied  that  there  wasn't,  and  that                                                               
Alaska  is one  of only  five states  that does  not allocate  to                                                               
communities, based on motor fuel tax.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0750                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  MacKINNON,   Deputy  Commissioner  of  Highways   &  Public                                                               
Facilities,   Office   of   the   Commissioner,   Department   of                                                               
Transportation  & Public  Facilities (DOT&PF),  said that  he was                                                               
not speaking  for the administration, from  DOT&PF's perspective,                                                               
but  wanted to  add  that Alaska  operates  differently from  the                                                               
other states.   He explained that  in Alaska and in  Puerto Rico,                                                               
federal highway funding  from the federal motor  vehicle fuel tax                                                               
does get  used in communities.   He said he believed  that almost                                                               
43 percent of  the total federal allotment is  used for community                                                               
transportation and  for Trails and  Recreation Access  for Alaska                                                               
(TRAAK)  projects.   He  said  the  balance  is used  for  Alaska                                                               
Highway  System roads  and  National Highway  System  roads.   He                                                               
pointed  out that  although the  contributions  don't go  towards                                                               
maintenance on an annual basis  for snow removal and road upkeep,                                                               
the state  contributes to local  roads in communities  to rebuild                                                               
those roads as part of  community construction projects.  He said                                                               
that  Alaska has  the ability  and does  contribute a  tremendous                                                               
amount  of the  share  of federal  highway  funding, relative  to                                                               
other states.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  asked  if  31 percent  or  any  significant                                                               
percentage would have an impact  on maintenance, which he assumed                                                               
was the intent.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MacKINNON  said that  as long as  the maintenance  needs were                                                               
made up through the general  fund rather than the dedicated fund,                                                               
there  would be  no  impact  on DOT&PF,  and  it  might help  the                                                               
municipalities.  He said that the  department has a need of about                                                               
$60  million a  year  just  to take  care  of  winter and  summer                                                               
highway  maintenance.   He  said that  presently  that amount  is                                                               
derived from general fund sources, and  as long as the amount was                                                               
"made  up  one way  or  another,"  the  state highways  would  be                                                               
maintained.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  noted that there  was $50 million in  addition to                                                               
that amount.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  said,  regarding the  amount  required  for                                                               
maintenance,  if there  were dedicated  funds to  be added  or if                                                               
something happened  so that  there was  a restriction  in general                                                               
funds, then  that dedicated fund  could possibly make up  part of                                                               
those  maintenance dollars,  thereby giving  more flexibility  to                                                               
how general fund monies could be spent.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0997                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM  offered that  if the  31 percent  requirement were                                                               
put in statute, there would  be no flexibility.  However, without                                                               
that  language  in  statute,  the   legislature  would  have  the                                                               
flexibility to allocate  funds, in any combination,  to DOT&PF or                                                               
to the municipalities.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM asked what amount  would be reasonable to consider,                                                               
given the  differing needs  and the  diversity within  the state.                                                               
He asked  if it made sense  to specify a given  percentage of the                                                               
motor vehicle tax, and if so, what that number would be.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.   MacKINNON  replied   that   he  had   the  same   question,                                                               
specifically, how  to dedicate a  portion to  the municipalities.                                                               
He  commented that  the largest  percentage of  revenue would  be                                                               
generated from Central  Alaska and asked if this  meant that most                                                               
of [the  revenue] would be returned  to that area.   He said that                                                               
without   the  dedication,   the  legislature   would  have   the                                                               
flexibility of putting revenue where it was needed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1084                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER offered  that her  calculations indicated                                                               
that having  a 20-cent motor  fuel tax generates $69  million for                                                               
the state.   From  Mr. MacKinnon's comment  that the  state needs                                                               
$60  million for  road  upkeep, she  suggested  that perhaps  3.3                                                               
percent instead of 31 percent  could be appropriated because that                                                               
percentage  amount would  account  for the  $9 million  leftover.                                                               
She said  that this  could be an  offering to  the municipalities                                                               
and could be changed later.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM respectfully  suggested  that this  had no  merit,                                                               
because of there being no justification for it.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAPSNER   responded  that   she  was   trying  to                                                               
accommodate the concerns  of the municipalities, in  light of the                                                               
43 percent  upkeep of the  roads, while also being  respectful of                                                               
DOT&PF's need for $60 million  for summer and winter maintenance.                                                               
She pointed  out that  the tax generates  $69 million,  leaving a                                                               
remainder  of   $9  million  that   could  possibly  go   to  the                                                               
municipalities.  She explained that  $9 million calculates out to                                                               
be 3.3 percent of what is generated from the tax.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MacKINNON commented  that  as it  is  presently written,  it                                                               
would be up to the discretion  of the legislature to allocate any                                                               
leftover monies in that dedicated fund to the municipalities.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MASEK  said  that the  [Matanuska-Susitna]  Borough  is                                                               
organized to  use property  taxes; the  borough uses  monies that                                                               
are  paid  into the  road  service  areas  to then  maintain  the                                                               
borough's  roads.   She  added  that  she  wasn't sure  how  this                                                               
information impacted Conceptual Amendment 4.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MacKINNON  stated that  the  allocation  would be  difficult                                                               
because there  are municipalities  and communities that  have not                                                               
only property tax,  but sales tax as well, while  some areas have                                                               
neither.    He said  that  those  [taxes]  go into,  among  other                                                               
things, the maintenance of roads.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG said he thought  the idea had merit.  However,                                                               
in listening to the figures  and percentages mentioned during the                                                               
discussion,  he suggested  that the  issue be  considered in  the                                                               
House  Finance Committee.   He  said that  attempting to  "try to                                                               
figure out  a percentage  right here and  now, with  what limited                                                               
time that we have, just seems hasty."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1255                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Kohring and Kapsner                                                               
voted in favor of Conceptual  Amendment 4.  Representatives Fate,                                                               
Ogg, Holm,  and Masek  voted against  it.   Therefore, Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 4 failed by a vote of 2-4.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1299                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  asked if there  was any further discussion  of HB
156.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING stated  that he  was opposed  to HB  156,                                                               
although  he thought  that the  amendment which  dedicated monies                                                               
and set up  the highway maintenance fund was a  step in the right                                                               
direction.   He  said he  thought  emphasis should  be placed  on                                                               
reform   within   the   bureaucracy,  spending   reduction,   and                                                               
government efficiency.   He said  this bill  was one of  many tax                                                               
proposals put  forth by the  governor that  should be put  on the                                                               
back  burner  until  effectiveness   and  efficiency  within  the                                                               
government was first evaluated.   He suggested that consideration                                                               
be given  to figuring  out ways to  contribute to  offsetting the                                                               
deficit  in terms  of spending  reductions,  rather than  raising                                                               
taxes.  He  said that he thought this effort  to be premature and                                                               
therefore he would object to HB 156.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1363                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE said this bill  would impact his district and                                                               
that he understands that fuel taxes  are low, but he wanted it on                                                               
record that  even though  he wouldn't  hold the  legislation from                                                               
moving forward, he didn't particularly  like the 20-cent increase                                                               
and thought  it would be  detrimental to people in  his district.                                                               
He said  this was  an "awfully  huge step  right from  the start,                                                               
although we  do need some  revenues," and he suggested  that this                                                               
amount would be too severe for this  type of a tax.  He said that                                                               
there should be some kind  of an increase, but questioned whether                                                               
it should be 20 cents.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER said  she was not in favor of  HB 156, not                                                               
because  additional  revenue  were  not needed,  but  because  it                                                               
puts  an unfair  burden on  rural communities.   She  stated that                                                               
communities pay a very high cost;  some are paying $4.00 or $4.50                                                               
per gallon.   She pointed  out that when  the price of  fuel goes                                                               
up,  the communities  feel the  impact, but  when the  price goes                                                               
down, the  pumps in the  communities do not reflect  that change.                                                               
Furthermore,  she said  that  many of  the  communities in  rural                                                               
Alaska don't  have roads, don't  benefit from  road construction,                                                               
and yet  will still be  paying the tax.   She assessed  that most                                                               
people will  not access the form  [on line] or have  it mailed to                                                               
them.  She  said she looked at  the rebate form and  it is fairly                                                               
complicated; she stated that she would oppose the bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1459                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM  moved  to  report  HB 156,  as  amended,  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1469                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives Fate,  Ogg, Holm,                                                               
and Masek  voted in favor of  reporting HB 156, as  amended, from                                                               
committee.   Representatives  Kohring and  Kapsner voted  against                                                               
it.   Therefore,  CSHB 156(TRA)  was  reported out  of the  House                                                               
Transportation Standing Committee by a vote of 4-2.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HB 173-FEE FOR STUDDED TIRES                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1518                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 173,  "An Act  relating to  a fee  on studded                                                               
tires; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  informed the committee that  public testimony had                                                               
been closed on HB 173.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:05 to 2:10 p.m.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  clarified that the proposed  committee substitute                                                               
(CS) for  HB 173,  Version D,  had been  adopted in  the previous                                                               
meeting [3/18/03].  Therefore, Version D [work draft 23-                                                                        
GH1127\D, Kurtz, 3/12/03] was before the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1600                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM offered Amendment 1, 23GH1127\D.2, Kurtz, 3/27/03,                                                                
which read as follows:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1:                                                                                                            
     Delete "studded"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 7:                                                                                                            
     Delete "Studded tire"                                                                                                    
     Insert "Tire"                                                                                                            
     Delete "$10"                                                                                                               
     Insert "$2.50"                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 8:                                                                                                            
     Delete "studded"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, lines 9 - 10:                                                                                                      
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsections accordingly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 12:                                                                                                           
     Delete "or service"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, lines 13 - 14:                                                                                                     
     Delete "or of the installation of studs"                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 2:                                                                                                            
     Delete "or installation"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 8:                                                                                                            
     Delete "or services"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 11:                                                                                                           
     Delete "(1)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 11 - 12:                                                                                                     
      Delete "studded tires or a person who installs studs                                                                      
     on motor vehicle tires for a fee;"                                                                                         
     Insert "tires."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 13 - 15:                                                                                                     
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1702                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM explained the changes  addressed in Amendment 1 and                                                               
also told the  committee that the amount of $2.50  was revised to                                                               
$2.00  [on page  1,  line 7,  of  the  bill].   He  said that  in                                                               
response  to  previous  testimony indicating  problems  with  the                                                               
bill's initial taxation efforts,  and from hearing Representative                                                               
Fate's  concerns with  not wanting  to encourage  people to  take                                                               
chances with  their safety,  the idea behind  Amendment 1  was to                                                               
tax  all  of  the  tires  to  help  to  produce  monies  for  the                                                               
maintenance of  the highways.   He referred  to the  "Annual Tire                                                               
Purchases  in  the  State," included  in  the  committee  packet,                                                               
pointing out  that there are  annual purchases of  $1,250,000 and                                                               
also that the governor's request is for several million dollars.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1738                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  clarified  that  the  $2.50  amount  was  a                                                               
suggestion, not from  him, but from a witness who  testified at a                                                               
previous meeting.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM informed  the committee that if  this amendment was                                                               
adopted, about $2.5 million would be added to the general fund.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1760                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER  asked if subsection (b)  would be deleted                                                               
in its entirety.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MASEK  confirmed that  there  would  be a  deletion  of                                                               
subsection (b) [page 1, lines 9-10,  of the bill] which reads: "A                                                               
fee of $10 a  tire is imposed on the installation  of studs for a                                                               
fee on a motor vehicle tire in the state."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1813                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  asked [if there  was any objection]  to Amendment                                                               
1.  There being no objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1843                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM moved  to report  CSHB  173, Version  23-GH1127\D,                                                               
Kurtz,  3/12/03, as  amended, out  of  committee with  individual                                                               
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal note.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1854                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOHRING  objected.   He  said  that this  was  an                                                               
example  of  putting the  "cart  before  the horse"  regarding  a                                                               
revenue measure proposed by the  governor.  He told the committee                                                               
that before  consideration of  such measures,  there should  be a                                                               
careful evaluation  of governmental expenditures and  a review of                                                               
how those expenditures could be  cut, so that those savings could                                                               
be used  towards such things as  road maintenance.  He  said that                                                               
in addition  to having  a philosophical concern  with HB  173, he                                                               
was also  concerned for his  constituents because of  their being                                                               
charged for  studded tires  as well  as being  charged additional                                                               
monies for motor fuel.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1913                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives Fate,  Ogg, Holm,                                                               
and Masek  voted in favor  of reporting  CSHB 173, Version  D, as                                                               
amended,  from committee.   Representatives  Kapsner and  Kohring                                                               
voted against it.   Therefore, CSHB 173(TRA) was  reported out of                                                               
the House Transportation Standing Committee by a vote of 4-2.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HB  81-MOTOR VEHICLE EMISSIONS INSPECTION                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  81,  "An  Act  relating  to  motor  vehicle                                                               
emissions; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1962                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MEYER, Alaska  State Legislature, as sponsor                                                               
of  HB  81, said  the  bill  has to  do  strictly  with the  "I/M                                                               
program"  [inspection  and  maintenance  program  for  automobile                                                               
emissions] and  that it is  only in  the cities of  Anchorage and                                                               
Fairbanks.   He  said  the  need for  streamlining  the bill  was                                                               
brought to his attention due  to input from Anchorage, Fairbanks,                                                               
the  Department  of  Environmental Conservation  (DEC),  and  the                                                               
AMATS  [Anchorage  Metropolitan  Area  Transportation  Solutions]                                                               
program.    He  said  the  bill  streamlines  the  motor  vehicle                                                               
emissions testing  process, improves  the enforcement  process by                                                               
the  I/M programs,  and enhances  consistency  among the  various                                                               
departments that oversee the program.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER said  the fine is being raised  from $200 to                                                               
$500.  The  average cost of an I/M inspection  is $250.  However,                                                               
with more costly  repairs running up to $2,000,  the current fine                                                               
of  $200 is  an economic  incentive  for not  complying with  the                                                               
program.    He  explained  that the  reason  that  Anchorage  and                                                               
Fairbanks have  this program is  due to their being  in violation                                                               
of the  Clean Air Act.   This  bill removes the  requirement that                                                               
alternative fuel vehicles  don't need to have  an I/M inspection.                                                               
It was thought that those  [alternative fuel vehicles] were using                                                               
clean-burning fuels, like  natural gas - and they  are.  However,                                                               
if the vehicle is not maintained, it can still pollute the air.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER  stated that there are  several loopholes in                                                               
the vehicle registration and I/M  programs.  For example, vehicle                                                               
registration can  be renewed but  a car  must have a  current and                                                               
valid emission inspection.   This bill attempts  to correlate the                                                               
inspection and registration processes so  that they happen at the                                                               
same  time.   The current  scenario causes  enforcement problems;                                                               
this bill attempts to achieve more fairness.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2126                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEYER  testified  that   HB  81  clarifies  which                                                               
emission program requirements  must be met when  the ownership of                                                               
a vehicle is  transferred.  For example, when the  title is being                                                               
transferred and  the vehicle  is a  1987 model or  older -  a car                                                               
that was thought  to pollute the most - the  vehicle must have an                                                               
existing emissions  inspection that  is not  more than  two years                                                               
old,  or have  a certificate  of inspection  that shows  that the                                                               
vehicle  is not  in  compliance.   Under  current statute,  these                                                               
vehicles have to maintain a certificate  that is not more than 12                                                               
months  old.    This  bill   eliminates  the  extraneous  testing                                                               
requirements  for those  vehicles.   It  also  offers a  consumer                                                               
protection clause  because of the  decal on the  windshield; when                                                               
buying a  used car, someone will  be able to tell  more easily if                                                               
the vehicle has  been inspected.  Representative  Meyer said that                                                               
the  Department of  Administration  is the  only department  that                                                               
enforces the emissions  program; this bill also  involves DEC and                                                               
the municipalities of Anchorage  and Fairbanks in the enforcement                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2156                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MASEK said that there  wasn't a fiscal note accompanying                                                               
HB 81.   [She received confirmation from the  committee aide that                                                               
a fiscal  note had  already been requested  from the  Division of                                                               
Motor Vehicles (DMV).]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER commented  that HB 81 does not  have a House                                                               
Finance Committee  referral.  He  said he doesn't think  there is                                                               
any impact  to the state because  the program is paid  for by the                                                               
fees.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2213                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES R.  HOSACK, Deputy Director, Division  of Motor Vehicles,                                                               
Department  of   Administration,  said  the  division   does  not                                                               
administer   the  emission   inspection   program   but  is   the                                                               
enforcement arm of the program.   He stated that when the program                                                               
was first  initiated, it was  a fairly simple process;  there had                                                               
to be an emissions inspection or  else DMV would not register the                                                               
vehicle.   Over the years,  a number of provisions  pertaining to                                                               
ownership have created  confusion, not only for DMV  but also for                                                               
customers.   He acknowledged that  it is almost impossible  for a                                                               
consumer to know  if a car is in need  of an emissions inspection                                                               
or not.  This bill takes  a "major leap forward" for customers by                                                               
removing  confusion and  unnecessary  inspections; it  simplifies                                                               
the  program  because  it  is  based on  the  registration.    He                                                               
explained that  if a  person owns  a car  in either  Anchorage or                                                               
Fairbanks  and the  car requires  an inspection,  that inspection                                                               
must occur every two years before  DMV will register the car.  He                                                               
said a fiscal note was prepared  and there is no cost involved to                                                               
DMV; it is a zero fiscal note.   He stated that DMV supports this                                                               
bill and  believes it will  benefit the  state and will  help DMV                                                               
customers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2285                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE wondered what  would happen if someone wanted                                                               
to buy an automobile that had been  sitting in a yard - a vehicle                                                               
that worked but was past  the designated two-year time period and                                                               
therefore  didn't   have  a  [valid]  emission   sticker  on  the                                                               
windshield.  He inquired as to  what would happen if the owner of                                                               
the  car  was an  out-of-state  student  or,  for one  reason  or                                                               
another,  couldn't get  the car  to an  emission station  for re-                                                               
certification; he  asked how the  penalty would be enforced.   He                                                               
noted that  the penalty would now  be $500 rather than  $200, and                                                               
asked  if it  would  be the  buyer  or the  seller  who would  be                                                               
responsible for having the emissions  inspection completed if the                                                               
transaction [for  buying the  car] had  been handled  through the                                                               
[U.S. Postal Service].                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2339                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK  replied that  the person  who actually  registers the                                                               
car would be responsible for  obtaining the emissions inspection.                                                               
He  said  this  law  takes  away the  requirement  of  needing  a                                                               
separate  emissions  inspection  at  the  time  of  a  change  in                                                               
ownership.  He stated that even if  the car sits for one, two, or                                                               
three years, when  the time comes to register the  car, the owner                                                               
at that  time is  the person responsible  for providing  DMV with                                                               
proof of a current emission inspection.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM asked  how a seasonal waiver  would be accommodated                                                               
by the two-year requirement.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-13, SIDE B                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK  said that a seasonal  waiver would be in  lieu of the                                                               
emissions  inspection and  would be  a method  of compliance  for                                                               
those  vehicles  that  are not  driven  during  the  cold-weather                                                               
months.   He  said that  the  seasonal waivers  are accepted  but                                                               
would need to be provided at each registration renewal.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2383                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM  referred to  a particular  situation in  which the                                                               
seasonal  waiver pertains  to a  vehicle registered  in Fairbanks                                                               
that has been taken  out of state.  He said  this is a "Catch-22"                                                               
situation because  a tag cannot  be obtained because  the vehicle                                                               
is  registered in  Fairbanks,  yet a  seasonal  waiver cannot  be                                                               
obtained  because  it  is  not in  Fairbanks,  and  an  emissions                                                               
inspection cannot be obtained because  emissions aren't tested in                                                               
Arizona.  He asked what to do in this situation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2365                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOSACK said there is  another process called the "outside use                                                               
waiver" that is  similar to the seasonal inspection.   It is used                                                               
by  college students,  the  military, and  people  who own  motor                                                               
homes  outside of  the  state.   He  said  that these  "waivered"                                                               
certificates can  be obtained through  the mail, from  either the                                                               
Fairbanks  borough or  the Anchorage  municipality, and  are then                                                               
submitted to DMV before the registration is processed.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE asked how many  $200 violations have occurred                                                               
annually over the past several years.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2329                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CYNTHIA  L.  HEIL,  Section   Manager,  Mobile  Sources  Section,                                                               
Department  of Environmental  Conservation,  said that  currently                                                               
the Municipality of Anchorage enforcement  agency writes the $200                                                               
ticket.  She said that in  one year over $40,000 was collected in                                                               
fines.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   FATE   calculated    that   this   amounted   to                                                               
approximately  200 violations.    He wondered  if  the number  of                                                               
violations  would  remain the  same,  or  if raising  the  dollar                                                               
amount from $200  to $500 would serve as  an incentive, resulting                                                               
in an increase in the number  of annual violations.  He commented                                                               
that there was no way to answer the question at this time.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2219                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JAMES   ARMSTRONG,  Coordinator,   Anchorage  Metropolitan   Area                                                               
Transportation   Solutions,  said   he   could  provide   further                                                               
technical information during the next week.   He said that in the                                                               
past, when  he worked  for then-Senator  Donley, the  penalty had                                                               
been  changed   from  $100  to   $200,  pointing  out   that  the                                                               
Environmental  Protection   Agency  (EPA)  wanted  to   add  more                                                               
enforcement to the statute.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2192                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RON G. KING, Program Manager, Air Non-Point & Mobile Sources                                                                    
Program, Department of Environmental Conservation, provided the                                                                 
following testimony:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  department   supports  HB  81   as  Representative                                                                    
     Meyer's indicated in  his testimony, and I  must say he                                                                    
     did a very  good job.  This bill  allows the department                                                                    
     and local  communities to  implement the  motor vehicle                                                                    
     emissions program more efficiently.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2161                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     A  specific example  that improves  our operations  and                                                                    
     benefits  the  citizens  is  Section  3  of  the  bill.                                                                    
     Section  3 removes  the requirement  for an  additional                                                                    
     test  on  older  vehicles.   Since  Anchorage  has  not                                                                    
     violated the air quality standard  in six years and the                                                                    
     number   of  older   vehicles  requiring   repairs  has                                                                    
     diminished,   it   is   possible  to   eliminate   this                                                                    
     requirement without impacting air quality.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The  rest of  the suggested  changes in  HB 81  address                                                                    
     limitations  or [provide]  additional tools  to improve                                                                    
     our  efficiency,  which  in   turn  will  ensure  equal                                                                    
     treatment and minimize  program costs while maintaining                                                                    
     program effectiveness.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2127                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The   vehicle   inspection   program   has   been   the                                                                    
     cornerstone  of  efforts  to achieve  the  health-based                                                                    
     standards  for carbon  monoxide in  both Anchorage  and                                                                    
     Fairbanks.   As Anchorage and Fairbanks  move into what                                                                    
     is  called "maintenance  status"  -  meaning they  have                                                                    
     achieved  the  health-based   standards  and  now  must                                                                    
     ensure that  communities do not exceed  those standards                                                                    
     in the future - it  is important the vehicle inspection                                                                    
     program is  effective, easy  to operate,  and minimizes                                                                    
     impact on the public, as much as any regulation can.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     This  bill offers  an  opportunity  to improve  program                                                                    
     efficiencies  and  eliminate  unnecessary  requirements                                                                    
     such as the additional testing requirements for older                                                                      
      vehicles, which is a statute that requires a statute                                                                      
     change.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      I'd be willing to answer any questions more specific                                                                      
     to the I/M program.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2099                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM commented  that  he had  served  on the  Fairbanks                                                               
North  Star Borough  Assembly for  three years,  and during  that                                                               
time there  were no failures  with emissions  control violations.                                                               
He pointed out  that even with those results, there  has not been                                                               
consideration on the  part of the testers  regarding the location                                                               
of the testing stations within the  borough.  He wondered who was                                                               
responsible for  doing the testing,  monitoring the  testing, and                                                               
making  sure  that  compliance  standards were  being  met.    He                                                               
mentioned  that  there has  not  been  a 50-  to  60-degree-below                                                               
[zero]  winter for  some time,  and that  air inversions,  rather                                                               
than emissions  control, are the  direct reason for  the problem.                                                               
He said that  in Los Angeles, testing is done  at a distance from                                                               
the place  where a lot  of emissions exist, whereas  in Fairbanks                                                               
testing  is done  right in  the  worst possible  place, and  then                                                               
extrapolated to the entire area.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2033                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING  responded  that  his  group  is  not  responsible  for                                                               
monitoring the ambient air, which  he presumed was the testing to                                                               
which Co-Chair  Holm was referring.   He said work has  been done                                                               
with  the Fairbanks  North Star  Borough to  establish additional                                                               
monitors, located away from the  downtown area.  He reported that                                                               
there used to be a monitor  at the state office building, and one                                                               
at the downtown  post office.  The state  office building monitor                                                               
has been discontinued,  and he believes it has  been relocated to                                                               
the armory.   Until construction started this  year, another unit                                                               
was  located at  Hunter School,  which is  situated farther  away                                                               
from the  core downtown area.   In  addition, work has  been done                                                               
with the Fairbanks  North Star Borough for a  National Academy of                                                               
Science  review   of  the  air  quality   conditions  that  cause                                                               
violations of  the standard in  Fairbanks.  He reported  that the                                                               
final  report  is  being  concluded  and  that  the  first  phase                                                               
requested that additional  monitors be located in  other areas of                                                               
the community; thus the reason for the relocations.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1955                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued that the  monitoring locations downtown in the                                                               
"hot spot"  are part of  the requirements established by  the EPA                                                               
and that its  concurrence has been obtained in  order to relocate                                                               
those monitors away from the central,  core area.  He agreed that                                                               
there have  not been violations  in Fairbanks for the  past three                                                               
years, or  in Anchorage for the  past six years.   He stated that                                                               
because of that, maintenance plans  are being developed to ensure                                                               
that  the communities  continue  in the  same way.    All of  the                                                               
control measures available,  such as the ethanol  fuel program in                                                               
Anchorage   or  the   vehicle  inspection   program,  are   under                                                               
consideration  for   how  much   flexibility  the   programs  can                                                               
incorporate while continuing to demonstrate maintenance.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1920                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM  stated  that  he  represents  District  9,  which                                                               
encompasses downtown Fairbanks, and that  "monitors 8, 9, 10, and                                                               
11"  are all  adjacent to  Fairbanks.   He said  that all  of the                                                               
monitors are within his district and are within less than a two-                                                                
square-mile area, while the City  of Fairbanks is approximately a                                                               
50-square  mile  area.    He  said he  suspects  that  given  the                                                               
location of the  monitors, if there were "a  bad year," Fairbanks                                                               
would fail the  tests no matter what was done,  given the current                                                               
location of the monitors.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1820                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HOLM  said he would like  to encourage DEC to  test more                                                               
appropriately so that  more areas would be  represented than just                                                               
the core  downtown area of Fairbanks.   He noted that  the armory                                                               
is  situated only  about  10 blocks  from  Aurora Energy;  Hunter                                                               
School  is only  about  two miles  from the  armory  or from  the                                                               
downtown  area; and  other areas  around town,  such as  Hamilton                                                               
Acres, are  not being tested  at all.   He referred again  to Los                                                               
Angeles, pointing  out that the  city is monitored  from Burbank,                                                               
which is  out of  the downtown  Los Angeles  area.   He indicated                                                               
that  a  broader view  would  be  more representative  than  just                                                               
focusing on the worst-case scenario in Fairbanks.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1761                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING said  the initial monitoring that was  done to establish                                                               
the "non-attainment  area" in Fairbanks  was done as a  result of                                                               
what's called  a "saturation monitor"  a number of  monitors were                                                               
located  throughout the  area,  including the  North  Pole.   The                                                               
concentrations  found  from  that  were used  to  draw  the  non-                                                               
attainment area boundaries.  From  the time that those boundaries                                                               
were  drawn in  the late  1970s or  the early  1980s until  about                                                               
three years  ago, saturation monitoring  had not been able  to be                                                               
done.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING  told the  committee  that  some additional  saturation                                                               
monitoring  was  done in  Fairbanks,  where  about six  to  eight                                                               
monitors  were spread  out  in residential  areas,  off of  Chena                                                               
Pump, and  in other portions of  town.  Once that  monitoring was                                                               
done, confirming  that there were  no violations in  the downtown                                                               
area, additional  information was provided for  DEC's maintenance                                                               
efforts.    He  said  that  the requirement  to  focus  within  a                                                               
community is  not just on "hot  spots" but also includes  some of                                                               
the residential  areas.  He said  now that there have  been three                                                               
[good] years,  efforts can be made  towards reclassification, and                                                               
if resources  are available,  the monitoring  can be  expanded to                                                               
other areas of the community.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1664                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE said that some  of his constituents indicated                                                               
that the price  for an inspection varied  at different inspection                                                               
stations,  from being  way overpriced  to being  normally priced.                                                               
He  asked  if  there  had   been  any  complaints  of  inspection                                                               
stations'  padding  of  the  bill,  pertaining  to  some  of  the                                                               
escalated   background  pollutants   that  had   been  previously                                                               
referred to.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1602                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING said that the department  is the enforcement arm for the                                                               
Fairbanks North Star  Borough and that actions would  be taken on                                                               
stations  or  individuals.   He  stated  that  if a  facility  is                                                               
inappropriately   inspecting  the   vehicle  or   inappropriately                                                               
recommending repairs,  one of the  requirements of  the Fairbanks                                                               
North Star Borough  is to do a referee action  in order to verify                                                               
that what has been claimed is, in fact, correct.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1569                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued  that if the facility  is repeatedly incorrect                                                               
or  is especially  onerous, the  department will  investigate and                                                               
take  appropriate   action  according  to  regulation.     It  is                                                               
incumbent upon  the department  to ensure  that citizens  are not                                                               
unduly affected  by unscrupulous  behavior, since  the government                                                               
is requiring  that the  vehicle be inspected  and repaired.   Mr.                                                               
King  said  the department  would  take  a  very  dim view  of  a                                                               
facility that is intentionally padding a bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ARMSTRONG offered  that the  normal  procedure in  Anchorage                                                               
regarding  noncompliance  is  that  a person  is  sent  a  letter                                                               
indicating noncompliance.   He referred to the $200  fine and the                                                               
$250-to-$300  cost involved  with fixing  the difficulty,  saying                                                               
there is not  much incentive to avoid the system.   Mr. Armstrong                                                               
mentioned AMAT's  letter of endorsement  in the  committee packet                                                               
in support of HB 81.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1487                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM said  he wanted  to register  his distrust  of the                                                               
system, saying  that he  appreciates the efforts  of DEC  and the                                                               
efforts of  those who feel  that too many hydrocarbons  are being                                                               
burned,  and   therefore  affecting  the  quality   of  the  air.                                                               
However, he said  he wanted to encourage people  to take personal                                                               
responsibility and for DEC and EPA  to "pull in their horns."  He                                                               
said he has lived in Fairbanks for  57 years, and some days are a                                                               
lot worse  than other days.   In the summertime there  can be bad                                                               
air because  it is affected by  forest fires and by  [Russia] and                                                               
other places  in the world.   Because the  air is subject  to the                                                               
whims of nature, when the air  inverts, there is nothing that can                                                               
be done.  He said the air  alerts are helpful for people who have                                                               
difficulty breathing.   Co-Chair Holm  stated that he  objects to                                                               
the idea that  a person is bad because of  not spending $2,500 to                                                               
fix his/her car, and that  at 50 degrees below [zero], discretion                                                               
should be  demonstrated when someone needs  to get to work  or go                                                               
to the doctor.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1372                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM continued  that he  appreciates the  efforts being                                                               
made to  have a  better society,  but he has  a problem  with the                                                               
general attitude  of EPA over  the past  four years -  during his                                                               
involvement with this  issue - and with the  threats and berating                                                               
that  have resulted  in inappropriate  federal requirements  that                                                               
are being  imposed on  the Fairbanks North  Star Borough  and the                                                               
Municipality  of Anchorage.   He  said  these issues  need to  be                                                               
looked at  and care needs  to be taken  so that something  is not                                                               
put into  place that will  affect the  economy of Alaska  and the                                                               
growth of the Fairbanks area, in particular.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1283                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM  emphasized  that   Fairbanks  suffers  from  this                                                               
problem more  than Anchorage or any  other area in the  state due                                                               
to a  higher concentration of  vehicles, and  due to it  being an                                                               
area that "inverts."  He urged  that DEC and EPA monitor the area                                                               
appropriately.  He  recalled that a price had been  paid for MTBE                                                               
[methyl  tertiary butyl  ether], mentioning  that the  percentage                                                               
that had  been suggested to  use in  gas resulted in  many people                                                               
getting sick;  it was an  expensive "test."   He said he  did not                                                               
want Fairbanks to  be a "guinea pig" and that  the state needs to                                                               
be  careful  when  implementing  programs  that  might  adversely                                                               
affect specific municipalities or areas.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1215                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HOLM  moved to  report  HB  81  out of  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the [forthcoming  zero]  fiscal                                                               
note.   There being  no objection,  HB 81  was reported  from the                                                               
House Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease from 2:56 to 2:57 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Transportation Standing  Committee meeting was adjourned  at 2:58                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

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